My summery to the credibilty of the story with the wedding ceremony and MJ and James did so much incredible sexual stuff together in Neverland: Safechuck’s mother, about 2005 trial: "Jimmy was over and he said to me, " Michael's an evil man."Ībout 2005 trial: "Plaintiff talked to her about the call and told his mother that the decedent was a "bad man", but was unable to tell her any details or say anything but the very briefest statement that he had been abused." Safechuck, about 2005 trial: "And so I told my mom then that he wasn't a good person." Safechuck: "It wasn't until Wade came out. Oprah: "When did you start to think of it as abuse?" "Plaintiff talked to her about the call and told his mother that the decedent was a " bad man", but was unable to tell her any details or say anything but the very briefest statement that he had been abused." Safechuck’s mother: "Jimmy was over and he said to me, "Michael's an evil man." Safechuck: "And so I told my mom then that he wasn't a good person." Safechuck: " I didn't think of it as good or bad." Oprah: "Or just as a thing that you all did, but you had to keep it a secret." Oprah: " So by that time, you thought of what you were doing as a bad thing." And there was so much attention on it from the world." Safechuck: " I didn't not testify out of thinking I was doing something good or knowing that what he did was bad. Oprah: "Why when your mother asked you in the first trial, why did you deny it?" Michael's my, like, partner, and then he's gone." So it was like the first night it really hit. And it was like a realization that, like, 'Okay, I'm not number one.' And I just wanted to go home. The boy would sleep in Michael's room and I would sleep downstairs on the sofa. You're spending the night there and the boy was there. One specific night that was really tough, it was at Avenue of the Stars. And so I saw him grow closer and closer to that boy.
Safechuck: " There was one particular boy who sort of entered and replaced me. Your brain doesn't go there, you're just thinking about you and him."
And you don't think about there being others. Safechuck: "I mean I testified when I was a little kid. Oprah: "So when Wade came out and we saw him on The Today Show, was that the first time you consciously recognized there were others? Cause obviously you recognized there were others because you testified in a trial."
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